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Making one isn't "that" hard once you factor in China's production capabilities. The problem isn't even making it, the hardware part. ( Ignoring IP for a second )

Once you have all that, it is how do you sell it, and sell enough unit to even have a ROI. And that is ignoring UI / software.

I don't think people on HN understand, hardware business is brutal.


I know these are all Mac CPU, but for context people may want to look at A20 Pro [1], which in 2 years time will be in MacBook Neo. Pretty damn impressive if you ask me.

A20 Pro is around 4K on Geekbench 7. And the P-Core is not the same as M6. The A20 Pro is actually only 9 wide compared to 10-wide on M6. Supposedly more power efficient and smaller die size.

[1] https://browser.geekbench.com/search?q=iPhone19%2C2


A20 Pro would have been number 1 if it was included in that chart.

Just want to add apart from all the other comments. SVT was brought by Intel and spent years to make it extremely well tuned for x86. While not the same for ARM and not even for Apple.

Another point is that the multicore part uses all core including E-Core. On AMD the multicore are all the same. Meaning for some benchmarks this will flavour Apple more.

Again there is nothing that stop people from optimising it for ARM Mac. The problem is the usage of it is so small it probably doesn't make sense to focus on it. SVT took a really long time for it to reach quality parity with AOM's AV1 encoder and later exceed it.


Ok. Why both the homepage and its Github repo doesn't make a single mention of Jason Evans? I know he stepped down but surely it is at least worst mentioning it?

Is Meta still using it and developing it? If not who are the driving force behind it now? I just checked there wasn't a release since 2022 and then we have this now. Something changed?

Just wish we have a little bit of context. But it is also great it is continue being maintained. It makes a huge difference for Ruby on Rails Apps.


> Just wish we have a little bit of context

See the comment of vocx2tx



It's got "JE" in the name.


Makes very little sense to me. As much as I want a Xserve, I don't see how Apple has a competitive advantage for the target market.

Nvidia already or will definitely make a product that will compete with Apple, as they are moving towards full integration. They also owns the networking, GPU, CPU, and other parts as well. Apple's only advantage is M8 potentially being slightly faster and macOS. Neither is a moat for the intended market.


Had a lot of the content in this article came out 4 years ago I would have agreed. At least we finally don't have a fake Image Coding Comparisons [1] that tries to undermine JXL.

Ignoring AOM and AV1, I was the first few on HN apart from its author supporting JXL from the start, I would argue the biggest case against JPEG XL is JPEG li.

Jpegli offer enough quality improvement and advantage without introducing an entirely new codec. And all of a sudden the bar for next image codec now needs to be even higher.

[1] https://storage.googleapis.com/avif-comparison/index.html


>nobody else had the same interpretation as you

I do. Even though it reads as trying to as fair as possible. But remember, your title is "The case against JPEG XL".

And the rest of the article is within the context of the title.


People who are still on Chrome as main browser should seriously try Safari 27. Compatibility greatly improved, super speedy.

Although for some reason the AI organise tab option is not showing up on me.


Still waiting for them to allow me to use any search provider I want (e.g. Kagi).

I had Safari build me an extension that lets me press control+space on any page to bring up a spotlight-type search box and to search in Kagi.

It did it, it works… but it’s beyond stupid that this still isn’t just a setting to add a custom query string, even if they bury it in the advanced settings.


Orion is pretty solid

I wish they would improve the extension support in Safari. I'm on Safari full time but I always dread the moment I have to install an extension. If the extension even exists (Firefox / Chrome is easy, so developers always do that and they don't have to pay Apple a fee) download some app, then click some button to open Safari settings, then enable the extension there, then give it permissions in the Safari menu bar. Horrible UX.

Feels like the perfect thing to vibe-code based on existing FF/Chrome extensions? Decent agent should make pretty light work of it.

That gives you the extension, but the workflow within macOS for users is still very user hostile. Problem with extensions might be that the training data isn't that great as there's not that many open source Safari extensions.

> I wish they would improve the extension support in Safari.

They added the ability to vibe code your own custom extensions in this version.


I honestly think vibe coding your own extensions would be safer than using 3rd party ones which are malware more often than not.

On Safari I use

- Wipr (Ad Blocker)

- 1Password (Password Manager)

- Dark Mode HN (HN dark mode hack.)

Not really sure what else I need tbh


WBlock is great too if you’re looking for something that’s free and/or more customizable. It’s the uBO of Safari basically

I use 1Password, RSS Button (To highlight if the page has a feed, so I can subscribe with my own Miniflux instance), 1Blocker (Ad blocking), Tampermonkey for loading userscripts on some websites, Readdeck extension to easily send something to my "read later" pile. It's not a lot of them, but every time I want to test a new one I dread it.

Just a heads up, you can have dark mode on every website on iOS Safari with Dark Reader: https://darkreader.org/

I use Dark Reader on Chrome, Edge, and Firefox, but I've found Noir to be better on Safari.

Does uBlock Origin (or something equivalent) work in Safari?

There’s an official Safari version [1], but it’s more like a toy compared to Firefox.

[1]https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...


The standard answer is Wipr but nothing is as good as uBlock Origin imo. It's passable enough that I daily drive Safari now.

wBlock and AdGuard

AdGuard as well.

>> Although for some reason the AI organise tab option is not showing up on me.

From what I recall, I had this in the first beta then it disappeared and never came back.


Do tech savvy people actually use chrome on iOS? Why?

Browsers on iOS may be using the same rendering engine under the hood but they make different decisions for UI or how certain features work. They can be useful if you don’t like the decisions Apple made with Safari.

An example of a decision Safari made that I don’t like: if you open too many tabs you reach a limit, but it doesn’t tell you that and just silently overwrites other tabs you have open.


My assumption would be for account syncing.

I use Safari, but whenever I go on a pilgrimage to try a different browser, I also get it on my phone so I can access tabs and bookmarks whenever I am.


For syncing from desktop chrome probably

When I switched to macOS in '22 I went to Safari from Firefox and I don't think I've run into a single compatibility issue.

if the "back" functionality is still laggy and not instant I won't change from firefox to safari.

Safai 27, which is often the only thing I look forward to when new macOS comes out. But Golden Gate feels something similar to old Mac. may be the icon redesign. But for now it doesn't feel any faster than macOS26 on my M5 MBA.

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